I'm getting too frustrated with Linux

Submitted by opcode
on July 22, 2006 - 12:01am

I've used Linux on and off since Red Hat Linux 5, but never on a consistent basis. I tend to try out a different distro every few months to see how they compare and I seem to like Mandriva 2006 the most, but I still get frustrated.

I hate how these Linux freaks talk about how open source is all better and crap, but my experience tells a different story.

Ok, so I get a Linux distro installing...WTF???? I can't leave out some Gnome games and applications because Gnome depends on it??? What is this crap? What happend to having a nice desktop and just a desktop with what I wanted? And I don't want to hear the KDE guys. I have the same issue with KDE. Perhaps it's the distro that set's these flags. And I don't want to hear, "Well you should try..." or just "You should..." Screw it.

Holy cow, all the different package managers. Well, I see an application I like, but it's not for my distribution. So I have to recompile from soure? Okay. La dee dah. Ah crap. Library issues. So I try to update the library but I can't because I don't have some other library. Okay I'll go install those. Not interesting. Now it won't compile. GREAT!!! Why can't these guys stick with one package manager? I don't understand this. If I'm running a business, I don't have time to compile code. IT NEEDS TO RUN WHEN MY BUSINESS IS READY TO GO!!!

Oh and what's this? This application requires the most recent library? What the hell does it need from this library that the prior one doesn't offer? ***sifting through documentation and code*** ?????? Okay, so there is no explanation why I need the newest library. Granted, a system should be up to date but give me a break. It's almost two or three times a week I have to update crap. This is rediculous. If this stuff is so advanced, why the hell can't I get an application running because I have to keep updating my libraries or install new ones? This is a load of crap and a bloated operating system.

So why do I stick with Windows so much? Well, it's not because I like Microsoft. I sure as hell don't. But at least with Windows, I don't have to keep updating absolutely everything in my system. When software needs to run, it runs. I don't have to worry about 30 machines having to be updated before I run software.

I support open standards and some open software, but not all of it. The most hated thing about it is forking. Ohh....*cringes* how I hate forks. The Linux community talks about all these open standards but can't get their heads together on how the OS should be put together.

I have a question for Richard Stallman. Can I see your DNA code? I know I can make it better if your DNA were open to the public...you know, like open source software. The freedom to change. What? What's that you say? It's your privacy? Well, crap. You know what, Stallman? My code is closed source because it's what defines me. My organization. It's what makes me unique. I'll document clearly how to communicate with my software and how it's storing data on my system, but I don't want to show you how it's put together. That's my business. If you don't like it, go write your own code. It doesn't hurt me at all. So screw contributing to the open source community when you can't get your heads together [all of them].

well, it seems you're not tol

on
July 25, 2006 - 7:07am

well, it seems you're not tolerant enough for linux then :-)

ask someone, who is more skilled in Linux to help you run it then. to choose applications to use whatever advice he can give you: choose desktop enviroments (kde vs gnome), office application (koffice vs openoffice vs others), "proper" package manager and depending on it linux distro.

And i don't get it, what is stopping you to run linux for your business.

You don't have time? Hire a specialist, as i suggested before, to made all of this for you.

Best wishes!

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/mator

Good question

on
August 1, 2006 - 11:12pm

Problem you faced is genuine and we all face this.
But its your undecisiveness which lands you in trouble, isnt it.
Just stick to one Distro you like and thats it, no more probs.
Ubuntu for instance...
stick to it and learn.
SO simple, now please dont say "I CAN'T LEARN".
Fine Stallman cant show his DNA code to world, because this is against ethics.Remember human genetic cloning:).

Software codes if open not only helps in rapid development of software in an exponential manner but also keeps you aware of obvious design flaws and bugs.
And its free is freedom not in money, make money.

Because the real fun lies beneath :)

Yep, Linux isn't for everyone

Anonymous (not verified)
on
August 5, 2006 - 4:42am

Yep, Linux isn't for everyone. Linux is behind in usability department.

Some people make a mistake, c

on
August 7, 2006 - 11:42am

Some people make a mistake, comparing uncomparible things. I'm talking about that part of your message, where you are talking about Stallman's DNA. I like linux and use it, because it's "Just for Fun" (c). It's a really big fun for me to work on it. And if you have some goals which can't go along with *nix ideology , then just use other OS, like Solaris,Windows etc. So everething is up to you.

same here but...

on
August 11, 2006 - 1:01am

Im a programmer and im doing something about it.

You see i hate menus, software wizards, overlapping windows, mouse, pointers and command lines. I hate it when the computer cannot figure out network settings by itself, cant remember what i was doing yesterday and cant recall every change that i have made to my documents.

I hate the whole WIMP (windows, icons, mouse, pointer) paradigm! So that means i will not use windows or the mac.

But as i said im doing something about it.

You get yourself a pda! or blackberry! and a game console! and throw your pc away!

I can relate. This is Linux'

Athlor (not verified)
on
September 3, 2006 - 6:03am

I can relate.
This is Linux's Achilles’ heel. Linux will never be ready for prime-time (regular folks) until it solves this. I'm a programmer too and I have a hard time with installs and their dependencies. Many times I a short download became a list of hundreds of programs and no information on what it needs but that it won't install because it needs something. I usually say the hell with it. If I can't understand it, regular folks would have an aneurysm.

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