Last week, after four years thinking about it on and off, I called the number for LASIKPlus. I've worn glasses or contacts part time since I was 13, full time since 17. I was fine with it when I could wear contacts without problem, but more and more, I was getting fed up with the whole thing. I had a pair of glasses break recently, and glasses in AZ are, for me, of marginal worth because you basically need to have welding goggles on your face in the summer time; the sun is really intense. That leaves you with using either prescription sunglasses, and changing back and forth between those and your regular glasses, clip on old-people style glasses, photochromatic lenses, or using contacts and regular sunglasses. I felt that the first three ideas basically sucked, and contacts were beginning to get more and more difficult to wear comfortably for long periods of time, so I started thinking about correction surgery again.
A week ago I went in for a consultation. In typical Sean-style snap decision (but really not; I *had* been contemplating this off and on for a while), I decided to have corrective surgery done. As it turned out, they could fit me in that day. I ended up having PRK done instead of LASIK because my corneas are too thin to have LASIK reliably done. I was totally OK with that as I wasn't really keen on having a flap cut in my eyeball (most LASIK complications are due to flap screw ups), and I had a four day weekend to recover from the procedure (PRK's main disadvantage is the longer recovery time).
The older I get in life the more I realize that much of my happiness has to do with expectations. I don't like too many surprises; I'm sort of mildly autistic like that. One time Kari and I got into it a bit because we ended up doing a completely different bike route on a ride than we set out to do. It wasn't that it was a bad thing...it was actually a cool ride, but I sort of hate not knowing what the destination or goal is. I think that's why I enjoy hiking the local hills; the challenge is clear.
How does that relate to my PRK experience? Well, the LASIKPlus people were really clear on what the differences were, and that PRK recovery can sometimes be painful. The recovery time can be slow; it's much slower than LASIK. Taking all that into account, I decided to go for the surgery.
The surgery was extremely quick. It took more time to do the paperwork than anything else. The total process couldn't have been more than 10 minutes. Here's basically what happened for my PRK:
- I was given a Vallium to chill me out. I can see why people need this; I thought this was mostly for non-contact wearing people that were a bit squeamish about having stuff touch their eye, but when I laid down on the table and got rolled under the laser head, it really began to sink in that this was a huge deal and I was a little freaked out. I'm not sure how effective the Vallium really was, or maybe they just didn't give it enough time to really kick in.
- They had me lay down on the table of the machine I was having the procedure done on (Alcon Ladarvision). They gave me a big stuffed eyeball to squeeze to get out some nervousness.
- Little plastic shield type things were taped above and below my right eye. They sort of held my eye open, but I probably could have shut it if I really tried. I don't remember them using an optical speculum, as in LASIK.
- They put in some numbing drops.
- They put in some stuff to chemically ablate (basically, melt away) the epiphileal part of my cornea. This takes 30 seconds; I remember hearing the assistant calling off time. It burned a little bit, but it really wasn't bad. Anybody who has has grapefruit juice in the eye has had worse.
- Once that's done, they washed away that chemical stuff with saline or water or something.
- Laser time! You're told to continue looking at a flashing red light in the center of the laser head. You hear what sound somewhat likely arcing from a spark plug boot, and I could just make out the faint blue of the excimer laser operating. 7 seconds later, you hear a computer voice that sounds something between the computer voice on Star Trek: Voyager and an Amiga say "Procedure 25% complete...21 seconds remaining." This continues every 25% of completion. The procedure was 28 seconds from start to finish. Ok, here's the vaguely gross part (I think it's kind of funny, though)...you'll start to smell some burning smell. Yep, that's your zorched eyeball bad parts that got vaporized by the laser.
- After the lasering is done, they once again irrigate the eye with some saline or something to get the junk out, put in a couple of antibiotic drops, and throw in a bandage contact lens
- The shields were removed. All done with that eye!
- They then repeated steps 3 through 9 for the left eye.
So here's a day by day breakdown of the things and recovery process since:
- Day 0 (day of surgery): I get up from the table, and while they said that PRK wouldn't have the "wow!" factor that LASIK does, I can immediately read the clock at the other end of the room. Maybe not perfect, but pretty well. I'm driven home by a friend to take a nap, but the cable company is running a jackhammer outside of my apartment and I can't sleep. I talk to my mom on the phone for a bit. After the dilation of my eye went down, I actually drive to go get some food. I go out with Neil and Knappy later to Teakwoods. I can see pretty well, with some distortions. My eyes feel OK....like maybe there's a dirty set of contact lenses in them. Later, as I got tired, and probably because everybody else but Neil was smoking, my eyes got kind of tired and a bit sensitive to light. I wore my sunglasses at night while Neil drove me home. I took a couple of the Tylenol 3's that they gave me in addition to the three different types of eye drops to use four times a day to make sure that I can sleep.
- Day 1: I woke up and feel pretty good. Neil comes and takes me to my follow up appointment in the morning. The doctor is amazed that I'm not having too much pain or wearing sunglasses in the exam room. Apparently, I'm an exceptional PRK patient. Kari came back into town from Malaysia and I drove her Element to the airport to pick her up. Later we go out for food and my eyes start getting tired again like the night before. I got really sensitive to other cars headlights. So Kari drove while I wore sunglasses.
- Day 2: Woke up and I could immediately tell that I wasn't seeing well. I didn't really freak out because I was told this would happen as the cornea started to grow back. I'm still sort of sensitive to light, but nothing that shades couldn't take care of. We went to a Mexican resturant and I couldn't read the menu.
- Day 3: Things became marginally better. I begin to notice that I can see more clearly immediately after I throw in a drop or two. I tried to read my email on the computer later in the evening but it's hopeless.
- Day 4: My vision stays about where it was, then, in the course of about an hour of hanging out with Christine (Kari's sister) and her family, my left eye begins to get markedly clearer. Still can't really read email, but I can read a book when held closely.
- Day 5: I can see pretty well out of my left eye, but my right eye is still kind of fuzzy and ghosting things. I can use a computer, but later I sort of got a little bit of a headache, I presume from the difference in the two eyes. I drove to LASIKPlus for another follow up appointment, and they took out my bandage contacts. I thought my vision would improve after this (I thought some of the fuzziness might have been nasty contact) but it actually gets a bit worse. The doctor explained that this is normal; that the contact holds a relatively normal tear shape over the cornea that sort of masks the irregularities in the cornea as it is rejuvenating itself. I drove back to Kari's while I still had daylight, because it's pretty hard to read street signs. Later, Kari's family tried to teach me to play cribbage, but it's tough because the cards are blurry. I was slightly worried about starting my new job the next day.
- Day 6: I start my new job. It's tough to read but doable. Luckily I didn't have to do too much. Towards the end of the day, things get a little better. I'm no longer sensitive to light. Later that night I noticed that I was even better. Kari was tired, so I drove home, and was fine.
- Day 7 (today): If I put in eye drops I can see damn near perfectly for the few seconds that there is a good tear in my eye. I'm excited about the potential for this. I can use a laptop pretty easily, although it's not perfectly in focus, I'm not having to strain. For the first time, I think my right eye has caught up to or maybe surpassed my left in the recovery. I'm wondering how much longer it will be.
So what else is news? Well, if you caught the clue in the write up above, I started a new job! I decided to leave my old one. I won't say where I work directly, but it rhymes with last word in "Key Largo." That should be enough of a hint. Compensation was the main reason I left the old job. This one is *much* better. There were other reasons for it, but I feel like I've written a ton today and just want to be done.
Ew.
That's just icky. I had to get a camera with diopter adjustment in order to avoid wearing my glasses (since my dominant eye is hella nearsighted), and even if my vision deteriorates I don't think I could let them LASER my eye.
LASER
Yes....for you, this won't hurt...much! "HA HA HA" (insert EM1 voice)
Yay!
Congratulations! I've always wanted to have corrective surgery, but never had all that much money that couldn't be put toward something more pressing. Plus, it terrifies me a little. But I'm really happy for you!
houses and dog stuff
Surely you can find money to fix your vision?
Terrification I can understand though. I was really gung ho until I was on the table...then I was a little freaked out as I thought about what a big change this was going to be. But really, it's nothing to be afraid of.
Congrads
On both your new employment gig, and your eye surgery.
Bravery has a name, and it *is* Sean. Kudos.
Let us celebrate the ch-ch-ch-changes sometime soon my friend.
-n
Congrats!! Been there myself!
Congratulations on your PRK! I had RK myself back in late 1997, and it was the best thing I ever did for my own body. The recovery wasn't too bad, though it took me several weeks before I could read the year on a penny. That being an unessential task in my daily life, I considered myself pretty lucky!
I had my RK done through the Navy, so there was no valium and no Tylenol 3. I remember thinking that the thing coming towards my eye looked an awful lot like an apple corer. It was really fast and didn't hurt a bit. The only time I had any pain was one morning a few days after the surgery I guess I slept too many hours and the cuts on my eye started to heal to the inside of my eyelid. When I woke up and opened my eyes that morning it hurt pretty freakin bad. Sounds like you were protected against that type of thing by your contact bandages.
Once again, congratulations!!!
thanks
I remember your apple corer comment from a few years ago. Luckily I had no such device....it's all laser stuff.
Reading is still a challenge; it's the one thing that the eye care people *don't* want to tell you the truth about. I guess it takes a long while for he cornea curvature to be really restored.
Its been a week since I had P
Its been a week since I had PRK done as well. I only had it done in my left eye. My vision is kinda blurry but after drops for a few seconds I see fairly well. I hope my eye clicks in soon cause having one eye being blurry is getting old and fast. Pretty much what you described is very similar what I experinced. Hope you eyes clear up soon.
my eyes cleared up
Keep in mind when I posted that blog entry.
your surgery
I am having PRK done Friday morning. I'm a nursing student, and I realized that I can't/don't want to continue to deal w/my glasses anymore. I'm legally blind w/o my glasses and I'm hoping that this will help a lot. Did it really take you about 6 mos to really see w/o any problems? I need to know b/c I start my OR rotation 01/08/08. Please advise...Thanks
Good for you!
LASIK is one of the best things I could have done. I wore contacts for ten years prior and have not looked back! You will be very glad you had the surgery as time goes on.
re: PRK...
Hello!
Thanks for your blog! I went to Diamond-Vision in NYC for a consultation last week and I qualify only for PRK due to astigmatism in both eyes. I'm having my eyes dilated on March 1 and will probably schedule the surgery a week later.
I have a very mild glasses prescription now, and they say that I should be able to read 20/20 based on my 20/40 vision now. I can read without glasses in daytime, but at night it's hard to read signs unless they are close, especially when driving.
Has both your eyes improved to 20/20 at this point? I hope things are going well for you!
Looking forward to hearing from you soon!
going well
Yes, both my eyes are doing well. I see better, especially at night, than I ever did before.
how are you now?
I just recently had an exam and found that I, too, am only eligible for the PRK procedure. Along with a thin cornea, I also have some additional weird thing going on with my cornea so I have to wait 4 months for a follow up exam to make sure my eyes are stable. I'm glad they are conservative like that, though. At any rate, I am good with all of this and still plan on going through with everything, however, I did stop and think when I heard from someone that they had PRK done a couple of years back and not only do their eyes "stick" frequently in the AM and sting when finally open, but that his night vision is also not good. He says that a couple of his friends are having the same experience. This is a person probably in his late 20s. I was worried that being in my mid-40's would possibly make my recovery time longer than some, but I don't anticipate having issues two years down the road. Now that you're one year from the procedure, how are you now and are you experiencing anything like this other guy? If you had it to do over again, would you? Thanks for writing your initial piece. It is very enlightening!
no problems, no regrets
I did have some minor fluctuation; even out to the 9 month or year point, but I don't really think it's do to the PRK; it might just be that I'm tired or I stared at the computer monitor all day.
PRK has definitely been one of the best decisions I have ever made. I don't have any nighttime "haloing," and my night vision is way better than it ever was with glasses or contacts.
I would absolutely do it again. Not being tied to glasses is one of the best things ever.
How are you so far??
Yeah....I was considering eye surgery becuase I positively hate contact lenses....due to a mild phobia about having things near my eyes. But I was curious as to what the bandage lens was and all of those details and did the doctors at anytime, cut into your eye like they do with lasik? And is there any doctors you would recommend...becuase your experiance and results sounds great..
no cutting
If you have a phobia about things near your eyes, then you'll have to figure out if you can bear with it for the minute or so that the surgery takes.
In PRK, they do not cut a flap in the cornea like they do with LASIK. But they will touch the surface of your eye. It's not a big deal.
Immediately after the surgery, they do put in a "bandage contact" (because the cornea has been ablated). This stays in for four to five days afterwards.
I went through the local LasikPlus, which I believe is a chain. My doctor was Dr. Gabriel Perry, and I believe he was doing LASIK and PRK even before he worked for LasikPlus. I was happy with my procedure, and pre and post-operative care, but I can only speak for my experience at the Scottsdale, AZ location. Your experience at a different location may vary.
I'm still very satisfied with my decision, and I would have PRK performed again if given the choice. I see better (especially at night) than I ever did with glasses or contacts, and my eyes don't fatigue nearly as easily as they used to.
prk
I am going to have prk done. The doc says to do one eye at at time. Do you feel this is necessary? I think I would like to get them both done at once and be done with it. Also, one place I saw charges $3400 and the other said $5000.. do you think that one is better than another place to go. Both supposedly have good reputations.
Thanks for any replay.
S
it really depends
Both of those prices seem a bit high; I think my procedure was $2800, but that was after a 15% discount due to me being an AETNA policy member.
You won't really know price until you sit down and go over the details. Some places do a "bait and swtich" where they'll advertise a really low price, but it's for a procedure on a machine that isn't applicable to the procedure you need, or something else.
Do your homework; look at reviews of the company and the doctor performing the procedure. Try and get a feel for how hard they're trying to sell you on it. If it's high pressure, and the doctor wants to sell you on the procedure, I'd steer clear.
When I had mine done, another doctor that was there told me that she felt that I could do LASIK and be OK. I decided to go with the more conservative of the two estimates, because the possible complications with LASIK could have been very bad (flap complications), and I had the time for healing from PRK.
PRK
I had an eval done yesterday and can't have Lasik, cornea too thin. There was another issue with my right eye, something that made it looked "warped", so have to leave the contacts out another week and go back. If the issue is gone, and they say usually it is, then I can have PRK. My doctor, in York, PA does both eyes at once. I'm a nurse, and maybe know enough to be paranoid. I don't do well with pain, if I bump my elbow the wrong way I get nauseated! What everyone writing to you has said about eyes "sticking" in the morning also has me paranoid. I also need to be able to see to drive, I commute 30 minutes, and really can only take a few days off from work. Plus, most of what I do is on the computer. I really had my heart set on Lasik, so guess I'm a little disappointed.
if you need your eyes for computer duty quickly
Then I would avoid PRK. You'll be able to drive and do other tasks that require primarily far vision, but reading will be difficult for a couple of weeks.
I never really had any "sticking." Maybe that's a LASIK side effect, or maybe I'm just used to dry eyes.
PRK
I'm researching PRK vs LASIK. My cornea are thin so PRK is recommended. Your blog is some of the best information I've read. I stil have some questions: How long did it take to get used to computer work? Can you focus well? Do you need glasses for computer work or reading? What was your perscription before PRK? I'm -10. Thanks for your reply.
my experience
My prescription was -2.5.
It's now been a little less than a year and a half after PRK. Still one of the best decisions I have made. I can focus on distant and small objects better than I could with glasses or contacts. My eyes don't fatigue like they used to.
I do not need glasses for computer work. At 31, I'm still relatively young, and I don't need reading glasses (yet; PRK will not eliminate the eventual need for reading glasses).
I could read a computer monitor (with a lot of concentration) after a little less than a week. It got easier after a couple of weeks, and my close-up vision was pretty much back to normal after a month.
PRK/Lasik
I just went to LasikPlus near Philadelphia, PA today for an evaluation. They told me at first that the doctor recommended PRK because my corneas are somewhat thin. However, she text messaged the surgeon and he said that I could get Intralase with Custom Wavefront Lasik done. The doctor also told me that there wouldn't be additional side effects because of my corneas with the Lasik. I went to Kremer two weeks ago and they didn't even mention my cornea size.
I'm glad I am a candidate for Lasik because I need to be able to sit at a computer all day at work, and it seems like it take a while with PRK.
prk in may 07
I had PRK in may of 07. I was a -6 and -6.5 in both my eyes. I wish I had this done years ago. My vision is 20/15 in one eye and 20/20 in my other. I basically healed after a month with the 10th day being the magic day where they felt normal. I still get a bit og star burst at night but slowly but surely it has dimished as time has past. I went Lasik Plus in Cheasapeake VA.
your surgery
I'm having my PRK done on Friday am. I'm getting it done at LasikPlus in Ches,VA also. Have you had any problems since you had the procedure done? DO you ever regret it? Please advise...
PRK
I just had my PRK surgery done 01/11/08 at LasikPlus in Plano Tx. I do not regret it at all. today is day 10 and I am now back at work. I still see a bit fuzzy but it gets better every day. Day 2 after was the worst. I could not hardly open my eyes that day. I just kept my head covered with the dark shades on. Over all a great experience!
Congrats
PRK rocks!
So, I am considering having
So, I am considering having this done. Sounds like yours went pretty smoothly. I know it is variable from person to person. My main concern is that my job requires a lot of computer work, and I can only afford to take 1 week off after surgery. Did you find that even with the fluctuating vision several weeks/months after PRK, that you could use the computer? I would appreciate any reply you might have to this.
i had prk on one eye and
i had prk on one eye and lasik on the other about a week and a half ago. everything seems to be progressing by the books so i hope to see more improvements in the coming weeks/months. i am glad to hear so many people had such positive experiences. i just want to remind anyone who wants to have this procedure done not to think lightly of it. is a few years of 20/20 vision really worth the risk? i went in with a lot of hesitation and now i am regretting my decision. i'll eventually need glasses again and now i am stuck with thinner corneas and no one knows at this point what potential problems that will bring down the road when you turn 50 or 60. again, happy for those who felt it was the best thing they've done. i think it was the most stupid thing i have done. pls think twice.
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I had lasik in 1998 when I was 50. I have a problem with epithileum cells growing back and clouding my vision. This requires additional lasik scraping to remove those cells. Three scrapings on left eye and five to date on right eye. I will be going in for another treatment on my right eye in April 2008. They will stitch down the flap this time which should eliminate any more epi cell growth. Later, they would like to do PRK to correct the massive astigmatism that I have in my right eye. This astigmatism is hard to correct with glasses whether for up close work or for distance. If I was to wear glasses, the lens to correct this one eye is $400!
My original surgery was done by Pacific Catarrach & Lazer Institute of Washington (state). The fee was $4000 but this included life-time enhancements and care, so none of these additional procedures has or will cost me a dime. What has happened to me apparently happens in only one person in 20,000. I guess I'm just the lucky one!
Even with all these needed enhancements and epi cell removals, I would do this again. My glasses prior to surgery required thick, heavy lenses and I had reached the point where I could not wear contacts any more. I am now 60 and wear over-the-counter reading glasses for computer work or reading that work well for my left eye. My right eye, forget it! I'm hoping that the PRK procedure will help this so that I will be able to wear over-the-counter reading glasses or a less costly prescription pair. Until I had lazer in 1998, I did not know that I was supposed to be able to see across the street! How's that for a success story!
give it time
I had a wee bit of buyer's remorse, and as my vision really started improving; I realized that I could see better than ever.
If you didn't realize that vision surgery wouldn't change the need for reading glasses with age, then either you weren't properly briefed by your doctor on the procedure, or maybe you didn't research it enough. That was one of the first things I was told. I'm OK with that.
Anyway, just give it some time. You may actually come to think differently about your decision.
No Regrets with PRK but Give Yourself lots of Time to Recover...
It's been 6 days since I had PRK done on both my eyes. My prescription wasn't all that bad (-2.5), but I've had to wear contacts or glasses since high school. I've been a flight attendant for a year and a half now and I was tired of my contacts continually drying out in the terminally parched, cabin air. I chose a clinic in Vancouver, BC because I was told they've been doing the procedure longer in Canada and are thus more experienced (and the price is better). My corneas were a little bit on the thin side so the doctor wanted me to get PRK. He also recommended it because dry eyes are a much less common side effect than they are with Lasiks. He's a huge advocate of PRK over Lasiks because it eliminates flap complications and side effects are less common.
The procedure was painless and not very intimidating (though I could smell my eyes burning) - no Valium for me! But ever since Day One I've been using numbing drops every three to four hours. You're not supposed to use these drops (given to patients to help ease the pain) more than four to five times a day but I can't manage without - too much pain! Until I put the drops in it feels like I've got lemon juice in my eye. I don't mean to scare anyone but make sure to allow yourself enough time to recover and know that everyone has a different recovery experience - some are faster and less painful than others! I'm having the contact lenses taken out today and I know to expect more pain and blurring for a day yet I'm still hoping that it'll improve after that!
Sorry this is so long but I haven't been able to do much for the last six days and am pretty much bored to tears (no pun intended).
Numbing drops
I had my PRK done is September '07. I'm now so used to being able to see, I have to remind myself to be grateful. I wish I would have had numbing drops - they said it slowed the healing process and would not allow it. I consider myself fairly tolerant of pain, however, this was pretty bad. The first night was the worst for me. In fact I should have taken the pain meds before hand, it started on the way home. I reccommend having the pain meds prior. I couldn't sleep because of the pain. I felt like the protective contact had moved to the corners of my eyes and it hadn't. I was also very sensitive to light. I am still taking Flax seed oil because my eyes are dry. As wonderful as I feel I can see, they are considering touching up my left eye. I have an appt. tomorrow, and I'm not sure I want to do it. I just don't know if they can really do much more for me. I have a lazy eye, and no glasses or contacts could ever get me to 20/20. I think I'm 20/40, and I dont' know if thats so bad! I wonder if the worse your eyes - the more pain?
Given my results, even without being 20/20 and all the pain, I would still do it again.
SM
Refractive Eye Surgery
The key to any successful procedure is patient expectation. As long as patient expectations are reasonable, and the surgeon has properly articulated the risks, and outcomes, LASIK surgery is indeed a very good option for permanent vision correction.
Another recovery time question...
I'm booked in for PRK in June. I'm not really worried about the time it takes to drive again, but I'm a dentist so I obviously need to see the little things really well! How many days do you think I would need before I could do fillings and crowns again?? I need to be able to tell 1mm from 1/2mm at a distance of about 1 to 1.5 feet (30 - 45cm) or so. I've so far blocked off 7 days, could change it to 10... is that being way too hopefull?
not sure on the specifics
But it took me about a month to be able to read the text on the head of a coin. I work in IT for a living, and it was about two weeks before I could read a monitor for any length of time, and I still had quite a few artifacts for a month. Your results may vary. Be sure to keep up on the vitamin C...it's supposed to promote good corneal healing.
prk
I just had PRK done 2 weeks ago today, and I had a horrible recovery...
I went straight from my surgery to the pharmacy to get painkillers just in case i needed them. good thing i did, because on the drive over, my eyes started paining, they closed and pretty much didnt open for 3 days. it felt like the contacts in both eyes had folded in half and was increadibly painful. i put the numbing drops in right away. popped two T3's and passed out for about 15 hours. only waking to take more T3's and numbing drops and go to my check-ups. it wasnt until about 3 days later that I didnt need to take the numbing drops or T3s anymore. and the next day the contact bandages came out. took a full 5 days until the bandages were taken out. every day has been getting better, but my vision is still fairly blurry. I'm a mechanical designer so most of my work day is sitting infront of a computer. I had to lower the brightness and resolution on my computer, but can only sit infront of it for about half an hour at a time. dryness isnt too much of a problem anymore, but im worried about the computer issue. has anyone else had a similar problem with the computer? my eyes start to unfocus and become very sore after half an hour.
i had a prescription of -10.0 in both eyes before surgery. i dont know of anyone else with this high of a prescription that has had laser eye surgery.
computer work
It'll probably take another few weeks before you're really comfortable with the computer.
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