On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:56:44PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
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> On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 11:29:11PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > > > Yes. The *rights you received* are the central point of the question.
> > > > Which did the user receive? The BSD granted ones? Or the GPLv2 granted ones?
> 
> Both!

That's not what the copyright notice of the files
        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.c
        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.h
        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_reg.h

said. It said it was licensed under the BSD ters. *Alternatively* on the GNU GPLv2.

Its "alternatively" not "at the same time"

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> > > You received the full rights granted by copyright law as a recipient,
> > > PLUS the ones granted by the entire document.  But, you did not receive the
> > > right to modify the author's license document.
> >                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Which is one of two, at the mutually exclusive choice of the user. In the case
> > of the three files I see nothing bad done.
> > 
> > > > If some software is dual licensed, you have two sets of rights you can choose.
> > > > It's not both at the same time. The text is even explicit: "alternatively"
> 
> That is not true at all.  You have to adhere to ALL licenses.  This is
> not even remotely a slippery slope.  You are making shit up to match
> your argument.

It is true in this files, and that's what I'm talking about.
        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.c
        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_base.h
        * drivers/net/wireless/ath5k_reg.h

Please stop rudely calling me a liar, ok?
You have neither the right nor truth on your side to do that.

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> blah blah blah.  You have to adhere to both licenses.  Alternatively
> means nothing in this sentence.

Yes, I suppose "ignorance is power" too...

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> > Section 6 is pretty clear, to me...
> > 
> > Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program),
> > the recipient automatically receives a license from the original licensor to
> > copy, distribute or modify the Program subject to these terms and
> >                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > conditions. You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients'
> 
> Exactly; you need to adhere to all licenses.  What part isn't clear?

That's section 6 of the GPL. These terms are the terms of the GPL if you chose
the GPL.

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> Your agreement is not relevant.  The law is.

Sure, take them to court, it's your money. However I suggest english 101 first.


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