Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project

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From: David Miller
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 11:09 pm

From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:35:27 -0500


This is not true at all.

If people are getting involved, just for the sake of being involved,
which there is strong evidence of, then it's not a positive thing.

We want people who are passionate about doing things with the
kernel, are self-motivated, and frankly don't need a ton of hand
holding and do not work on things that require absolutely no
thinking.

Look at anyone who is extremely nimble with the kernel, and ask them
what they worked on to get going with development.  Did Andrew Morton
fixup whitespace errors when he was starting to become familiar with
the tree?  Did I?  No, none of us did this stuff.  We read over the
code and learned how it worked, did a port, optimized a lookup
algorithm somewhere.

Consistently we see people turding with whitespace, and not breaking
out of that cycle.  That is a problem.
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[Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, James Bottomley, (Wed May 28, 10:20 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, David Miller, (Wed May 28, 11:09 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Wed May 28, 11:17 pm)
RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., David Woodhouse, (Thu May 29, 9:15 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, James Bottomley, (Thu May 29, 10:37 am)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., Jeff Garzik, (Thu May 29, 12:12 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Thu May 29, 1:24 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 29, 1:29 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arjan van de Ven, (Thu May 29, 2:11 pm)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., David Woodhouse, (Thu May 29, 2:18 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:20 pm)
Re: RFC: Moving firmware blobs out of the kernel., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:22 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:25 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Thu May 29, 6:27 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, (Fri May 30, 6:47 am)
How many contributors are we losing, Luck, Tony, (Fri May 30, 1:23 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Willy Tarreau, (Fri May 30, 1:46 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Greg KH, (Fri May 30, 1:47 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Josh Boyer, (Fri May 30, 6:12 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Lars Noschinski, (Sat May 31, 12:21 pm)
Re: How many contributors are we losing, Stefan Richter, (Sat May 31, 12:53 pm)
Re: s2ram video problems Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 1, 10:55 am)
Re: s2ram video problems Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing ..., Rafael J. Wysocki, (Sun Jun 1, 11:14 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Benjamin Herrenschmidt, (Sun Jun 1, 4:56 pm)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project, Rafael J. Wysocki, (Mon Jun 2, 3:43 am)
Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] RFC: Moving firmware blobs out ..., Mauro Carvalho Chehab, (Sun Jun 8, 4:13 am)